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A NetBeans Developer Takes Up Eclipse and Comments

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posted Monday, 4 April 2005
More bits and pieces and an interesting story about a NetBeans developer taking up Eclipse and his comments.

There is a blog entry, 24-Hour Time Shift, that I find unique in that it seems to apologize for some of the mediocre aspects of Eclipse (now before you Eclipsoids jump on me - Eclipse has some good aspects too) - it does so in such a funny way. It goes through some of the Top 10 Reasons to Switch to NetBeans and proceeds to apologize for Eclipse's weaker and less integrated features and generally comes off with a 'so what' attitude to alot of the reasons - despite that other Eclipse developers having suggested that some of these points are obvious strengths of NetBeans.

The shocker in this blog is not the apologetic tone of the responses - but the comment section. If you read nothing else - read the comments of Dan Martin which effectively refutes many of the 'so what' responses. Using his experience with both NetBeans and Eclipse (he has had to switch for his job to using Eclipse) Dan Martin highlights what he is missing from NetBeans, one point he makes is on performance :

"Performance. I know this has been a claim of the Eclipse community, but its simply not true. Eclipse often goes off into a hard loop and takes the entire CPU with it, making my computer useless for a long period of time. Netbeans rarely does this, and when it does the CPU isn’t throttled - I can still use the computer for other uses. Eclipse is bad on Windows and even worse on Linux (SWT’s fault, from what I understand)."
This syncs up with many other Eclipse developers' comments on Eclipse performance.

Dan Martin has a number of interesting points on things he misses such as the superior Ant integration of NetBeans and he ends it by saying that he feels less productive in Eclipse. Read his full comments at the site under the comment section (Dan Martin).

I noticed some very nice comments on NetBeans in a number of blogs - Eclipse developers are trying out NetBeans 4.0 and 4.1. One of the nicer compliments comes from Eclipse developers who yearn for the NetBeans profiler. The comments give a not very flattering view about the state of Eclipse profilers.

Out-of-box experience has always been problematic for Eclipse. Despite Eclipse and NetBeans both depending on module/plugin software backplanes - one big difference between Eclipse and NetBeans is the out-of-box experience. NetBeans 4.1 includes so much - and working with Eclipse is like an Easter egg hunt. The answer to questions with regards to Eclipse are invariably answered by - you need to find a plugin. Even for basic functionality - J2EE, GUI building, Web Application development, XML editing and many other areas. So many plugins with varying quality. And that's not the end of the story. I'll revisit this issue at a later date because I've been spending time looking into plugins lately (both NetBeans and Eclipse).

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